294: Superteams, Startups and Stablecoins - Solana’s Bet on Ireland is Already Paying Off

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Money never sleeps.
Pal Hey there, I'm Pete Townsend

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and This is Money Never Sleeps.
We look inside the minds of

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entrepreneurs and at the
crossover of startups,

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enterprise, finance, technology
and life as we know it.

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This week I'm catching up with
Alejandro Gutierrez, who's gone

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from crypto community Catalyst
to the driving force behind

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Solana Super Team Ireland.
When we last spoke six weeks

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ago, Alejandro was quietly
setting the stage.

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Now he's officially leading
Solana's push across the island

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of Ireland, North and South, and
the early momentum is

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undeniable.
Money.

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Never sleeps.
Well.

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In this episode, we unpack how
Super Team Ireland came to life

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and why the Solana Foundation
doubled down on Iris Talent,

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what's brewing at the Dublin
Build Station and how it's

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become a launchpad for Web 3
startups in Ireland, Where

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agentic AI, payments, and health
tech intersect with Solana's

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edge, and why stablecoins may
quietly reshape the future of

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finance in Ireland before most
even notice.

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From Friday talent hubs to Demo
Day winds and beyond, this one's

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all about building an ecosystem
1 project and one conversation

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at a time.
So let's dive in with Alejandro

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Gutierrez on Money Never Sleeps.
So hey, Alejandro, thank you for

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coming back to the show.
We got a lot to talk about

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today, don't we?
Indeed.

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Thank you very much, Pete.
Always a pleasure to be here and

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I'm really, really glad to to be
back.

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Awesome.
Why don't we start there today

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with you telling us about what
you're doing with the Solana

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Super Team Ireland, how it even
came up and what you think this

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will look like?
I will tell the whole story.

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I think it will give a little
bit of context to everybody from

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around 10-9 months ago, we
started something called the

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Solantal and hope and and the
reason behind was their last

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year visit all the Solana super
team in UK is a look.

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There's absolutely nothing
happening here for the people in

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the sun ecosystem.
Why?

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Why not creating a space for
that people to get together.

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And more or less I came to doc
badge.

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I convinced the guys in the
fight to give me a table with

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some chairs.
I think hitting the people from

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the zone ecosystem and why?
Because I saw talent and I think

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it's always important to your
supportive talent in the

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ecosystem.
We started with four people, 5

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people and by the end of the
year, we were consistently

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hitting like a 10 people.
So OK, this is interesting.

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Ireland did extremely well
actually on the Raider hackathon

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that is part of the Coliseum
hackathons last year out of

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three submissions to winners,
which is insane.

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And that actually gave that
boost for the Solano Foundation

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to say OK, what is happening in
Ireland?

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Should we go support Ireland and
create a Super team and the guys

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like a cop in the Super Team UK
and also Arthur in Super Team

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France?
That is the person that manages

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all the Super teams in Europe.
They saw something in Ireland

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and they vouched for the idea.
So I would like to just give

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them a shout because they were
really good for this, for this

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to happen.
With that in place, we launched

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Super Team on the 7th of March.
So it has been a month on a bit

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only it feels, it feels like
he's way longer than that.

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But the important component is
the vouch, right that we had

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also boring.
The Irish talent has been paying

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dramatically.
We were consistently getting 20

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plus people to come to work on
the Italian hope every single

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Friday, which is is amazing to
see.

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And out of that projects have
been created.

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And more recently with the bill
station, we got 19 projects to

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submit 2 hour demo day that
happened last week.

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And just stepping back before we
get into build station, I mean

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the outcome that you want to
drive with Solada super team

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here in Ireland.
Can you tell me a bit more about

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that?
So that super team as an

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initiative is a nonprofit
accelerator that is funded by

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the solar ecosystem and the plan
or the idea behind is support

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the Irish Solar Ecosystem and
help everybody that is

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interested on it to use have an
easier journey.

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One in learning how to use going
to this article system to to get

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the support.
And that support is everything

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from education to funding and
also to find the people that are

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in that journey exactly the same
as them.

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One of the things that we have
realized quite quickly is that

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when you are within a team of
people that are building and

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they're doing the same, the
learnings and the both of those

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teams are faster and higher.
That's one of the main learning

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that we're taking out of it.
I know that you're taking all

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island approach as well across
all of Ireland.

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Correct.
Yeah, it is a whole island

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approach and Super Team Ireland
is not just the Republic is is

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everybody in the island.
And this one is an interesting

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one because Super Team UK was
covering what it was Ireland and

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and the UK.
But not I've been and I'm going

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to use Request Cap to officially
change the the name to Super

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Team Great Britain.
Yes, we're going down that road

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now, aren't we?
The reason I ask is that when we

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count the numbers across the
island of Ireland where we've

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got 7 million people here right
on the island, and I equate that

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to Massachusetts where I'm from
originally, and there's 7

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million people in Massachusetts.
And that when you have this type

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of a concerted effort to build
and to have those that are

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building on Solana, building on
any ecosystem, to have this type

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of championing effort, this
leadership is a good thing.

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I don't think that in
Massachusetts, now we've got

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Nick Dukov and Amira Baliani,
who are both with Solana.

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I think they're both based in
Massachusetts, right?

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But in terms of this type of
concerted effort and focus for

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this type of ecosystem, it's a
pretty big deal, isn't it?

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It is especially for Ireland.
This is the first time that

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these happen in the whole island
and I think it was a big dumble.

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We were optimistic, but at the
end of the day, you never know

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until the results are out there,
especially from the hackathon

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perspective and from the support
that people was going to give to

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Solana.
But he has paid, he has paid

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over and the support has been
dramatic.

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And you mentioned some that is
really important.

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And I have realized I think you
need to have like a, if you want

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to use run this type of
initiatives, you need to have a

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head that is leading all these.
And now I understand the reason

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why the guys from Solana were so
adamant about the fact that the

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person that is leading these
super teams needs to be focused

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or have the main focus on it
because it is not like that is

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is impossible.
The base is really hectic.

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The role of these leads is to
serve as a conduit, as they

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mentor, as a help for all the
projects and ecocido the people

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in the ecosystem that are in
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And that requires time.
There is no other way to learn

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it and.
You're also crossing over

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between the GO of Ireland, but
also the verticals.

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What are the verticals that you
think are going to be

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interesting that you'll have to
bring to life on Solana here in

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Ireland?
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So AI is one of them and where
I've seen it more and more,

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especially with everything that
has to be with identic payments.

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Actually one of the companies
borrowed the Coliseum hackathon

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that identic payments they were
in the beginning use an AI

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company and I explained to them
the benefits of blockchain and

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suddenly they are converted.
They're part of the Super team

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Ireland and they're getting more
and more into it.

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So that's that's one that I
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I'm pretty related to a
payments.

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I think everything has to be
repayments.

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Ireland has been a country what
I hope for payment operations of

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multiple companies, Irish ones
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So I believe there's going to be
a lot of synergies that will be

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there.
And the final one that I'm

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really keen to explore is
everything that has to be with

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healthcare and bio bioscience.
Then there is so much potential

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on it with to be blockchain
technology and that's probably

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one of my goals for the
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The payments industry really
came out of fintech.

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It really came out of players
like some of the the O GS in

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Ireland like Fexco and that with
there is an M1 payments corridor

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going up between Dublin and
Belfast and there is a number of

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players there.
There's obviously PayPal have a

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big presence here.
Stripe very core of what they're

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doing around payments is, you
know, the Cullison brothers odds

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from Ireland.
They got a big operation here.

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We've got Elovan who are part of
one of the key players in the

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global credit card network.
They have a good base of

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operations here.
Transfer made as well.

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We could go on and on.
There's a ton going on here and

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it's almost equivalent to what's
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Atlanta have made a big inroads
into this and with the whole

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payments environment that they
have and that has been driving a

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big part of fintech and that the
core evolution of payments that

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I think everyone is talking
about is with stable coins.

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There's tons of activity there,
but we need to bring people

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along.
You know, we definitely need to

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bring people along and I think
there's, there are ways to do

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that, you know. 100% and and
he's going to be a a long

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journey.
He's going to take us time, but

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one thing that I'm seeing more
and more a good example was when

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Strive actually both rich
because a lot of the payment

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processors and, and the payment
company that didn't know the

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reason why the ones that handle
being close to to the crypto

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space before.
And then when you start

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explaining, then there's a like,
oh, wow, OK, this is happening

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and this is a big upside for
them.

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So now we need to what are we
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So they are now in the look of,
OK, what is going to be the way

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they're going to be able to
match that.

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And they know that they, like
left behind in a way they're

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lagging.
So the Air Force are going to be

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used dramatically.
And I'm seeing it.

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There's more and more people now
interested on it.

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Oh yeah?
Well, the Chris Dixon from May

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16, ZI heard him talking about
this recently and he said, you

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know, we're approaching this
flipping point where the middle

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manager in the payments firm has
more career upside by moving in

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the direction of stable coin
payments.

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Yeah, then they would be by
rejecting the idea of stable

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coin payments because the
narrative is shifting.

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And so I think it's bringing
people along, showing them the

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ropes around stable coins.
And listen, these are just

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digital payments without
intermediaries.

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That's all it is, you know.
So is.

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Is a more efficient way to do
them right.

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But then if you you think about
the Irish ecosystem concept,

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what this is going could
potentially give us is

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positioning not just Irish
players, but but even the Irish

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people in the space at a
different level if we adopt this

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type of technology faster than
ordered jurisdictions because.

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I'm thinking about how much
we've embraced Revolute here as

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a country and that I'd say at
least half the people on the

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island have, roughly.
We use that all the time.

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We use that every day and that
we've got a good base of people

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who are adopting new
technologies, which is great.

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Are we likely to see an adoption
of stable coins at the

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institutional level behind the
scenes where stablecoin rails

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are replacing the old credit
card and debit card networks

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where we have that impact here
in Ireland?

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Or are we expecting to see
perhaps people with easier tools

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to use to be able to send stable
coin payments back and forth

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between say a non custodial
wallet like a Metamask or

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Coinbase wallet?
You know, where do you think

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we're going to see the impact?
It's a great is a great

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question, a great question.
Because I've been thinking about

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this one, right and and it we,
we still have some work to do on

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the on the crypto side to
abstract the complexity away

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from the user and with non
custodial wallets, I think.

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That's probably in Ireland.
The way I see.

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That's probably the easiest path
for for adoption or stable

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coins.
I guess something that is in the

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background people are using,
they don't even know exactly the

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same as Revolute.
People don't even know that they

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are not holding it.
They just know I have bought

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some stable like I bought some
crypto where Revolute, OK, you

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don't own it, but at least
you're getting exposure and you

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are understanding a little bit
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I think that's probably the way
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People using it without even
knowing and the reality is

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exactly the same as a lot of the
technologies like just struck

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complexity.
People are using the technology,

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they don't even know they're
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Why shouldn't they know that
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They're using the technology is
irrelevant.

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stable coin perspective is to

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educational side of it, kind of
meeting people where they are

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and when they're curious about
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the institutional level, it's
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to have some conversations
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what might be the things that
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And one of the big things we see
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But I think we're on the cusp of
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through in the US and there's
been progress on that this week.

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And obviously we've had Mika
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the EU.
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way there, but lots to do there.
And Solana being, you know,

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obviously USCC is on Solana,
Tether is on Solana.

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I think there's plenty of upside
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with stable coins, stable time
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you said, with AI, with agentic
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And there are players here that
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hackathon and we'll talk about
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When I went out to go look a few
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Angel investor deals that the
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done in Ireland by angels from
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Med tech.
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ton of folks that have worked in
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that have a little bit of
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perhaps writing Angel checks in
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effort there of whether it is at
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enterprise level, and I think
the conversations that can be

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had are probably going to be a
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enterprise level.
So that's, you know, that's a

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strategy to pursue there.
Also going back to the

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activities that you're
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we partnered on something
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where you got the Dublin build
station up and running, which

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feels like it is an extension
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talent hub that you started.
You want to talk a little bit

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about that and how you got that
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for the hackathon that was just
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of town Hall.
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people can come on Fridays, they
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That works well.
However, if you want people to

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be able to use create meaningful
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need to give them a space in
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that's the plan.
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So we got 18 spaces into patch.
We provide monitors, we provided

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food, we provided mentors talks.
There were two sessions every

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single day with fairly reputable
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space and and from abroad is how
Pete was one of them.

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Thank you very much for that,
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We have Anthony Apollo and that
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stable calling Commission from
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We have the Michael card.
We have Chris Martin from KPMG

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Law giving us a talk on how not
to go to jail.

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That is always important.
There were 14 sessions on it.

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We in total there were 17
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How is Connor Cantwell from
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Connor was fantastic as well.
He's always giving pragmatic

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views on how to fundraise and
what is happening in the space.

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So that was fairly good.
We have Maria Fernanda, you paid

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as well as the CEO from Crypto
Markets.

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I think she has been fundraising
for the last six months, just

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closing not long ago.
So she has a really fresh

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perspective of what's happening
in the space, which is always

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good to good to hear from for
being such a small country,

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right?
Ireland either has a lot of

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Irish people abroad and in here
that are extremely relevant in

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the space, but also we have
really good friends abroad that

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are more than happy to use take
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extremely busy.
And that's really important that

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we have the feel as well for an
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Talking about UIUX, that was
fantastic session because that's

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one of the main gaps that we
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Like we were still not there
from the UI UX and these guys

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are one of the top agencies in
the Solan ecosystem and in the

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world of web trees or given the
chance for the people to use get

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inspired about these stories,
what they are telling.

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All this knowledge is just taken
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level and is there was a
feedback that we got right.

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Like, hey, we never had the
chance to have this before and

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now two weeks we're here rolling
feathers with people that had

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achieved so much.
And that's that's what we need.

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That's exactly what we need.
We want just set the bar high in

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that physical system.
And this is the beginning of

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something important in Ireland.
Like we have so many things

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happening at the moment and it's
time to use take it to the to

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the next level.
Yeah, yeah, I know.

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It's time to build.
It's time to build.

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It was great to be involved with
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One of the conversations was
around, listen, Pete, I know

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that you're telling me that I
need to nail down the problem to

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solve and that I need to then
connect that to a market who

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feels that pain and individuals
and or businesses that feel that

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pain and who I need to solve
that problem for.

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But the reality is so much of
we're building here and what 3

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is for a market that is
developing and for a market that

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will need what we're building
when finance moves on chain.

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everyday finance, right, your,
your own personal wealth, but

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then also the whole big payment
networks like we're talking

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about.
So it was great to engage with

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the founders and really enjoy
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And that all then culminated
this past weekend.

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But we had the 19 projects that
were presenting to the judge

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panel with me, my Santa Maria
with Matt McAllister, and shout

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out to those two for giving up
their Saturday on a sunny

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Saturday to come hang out with
us, which was great.

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It was great to see the progress
that the teams made.

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But what was the setup of the
hackathon and how was that

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plugged into the whole global
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So there's the two hackathons on
the Lord of the initiatives in

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this on ecosystem are around the
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There is a big push actually for
builders.

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And one thing that is important
to mention, this is not a week

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in hackathon.
It's not at all.

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It's a four weeks hackathon that
if you ask me is more like a

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business competition.
That's realistically what what

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is getting built in there is
businesses and and the MOA was a

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proof because there were people
that came with an idea and they

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left the MOA with a business
changed or might do their

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perspective right.
Like a people have been trying

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to use.
Yeah, we'll have an idea and

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does extend.
But now when they go through

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this process two weeks working
there potentially even get some

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USDC to help them boost the
project.

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That's a completely different
experience.

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And the rule we want, right,
like we want continuous Air

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Force is not just one weekend,
see you next year, like we're

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trying to build in here is a
continuous effort.

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We have time in home this
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And then the week after that
we're going to have Dolan

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Startup Village.
And what Dolan Startup Village

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is just a continuation.
We have these 19 projects.

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Let's take them again.
Let's just go there for 10 days.

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And then some of the guys that
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are going to yours to be part of
the European Demo Day in

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Budapest as part of the Apex.
So you can see the days, days

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are planned, right?
There is a timeline with these

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to get people from.
I have an idea in to get an

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investment.
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The lens that I looked at the
projects through was just like

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you said was, is this a business
and does it have real world

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impact?
Is it something that takes

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advantage of all of the
differentiators of Solana,

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right.
These are the other other

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ecosystems of the protocols.
So, you know, we ended up with

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study perks, Sarah Wood's
business as being the winner.

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And any business that I look at
at the earliest stages, I need

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to see a founder market fit.
And there's tons of that that

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Sarah has for what she's
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You know, she described herself
as a discount to Holic and that

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we need to make it easier for
students to take advantage of

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these discounts that they're
offered.

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It can't be all this complexity
around codes and proving your

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identity and having all these
different student identity

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cards.
It just need to be simple and

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straightforward.
And we can build that on Solana,

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right?
And that was something that

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really resonated with me, but
also with my and Matt who are

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coming at this from a little bit
of a different angle.

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So, you know, we're really
looking for businesses and it

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was great to see that approach.
We saw some fantastic technical

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projects as well.
We're on their technical merit

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alone could have absolutely
placed first in the hackathon,

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right?
But we're looking at this across

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the board now.
So I had a little bit of a, you

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know, is there an Irish ethos
here that could be applicable,

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you know?
And I was part as well of what

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we wanted with the sidetrack,
right?

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How's this going to impact the
Irish ecosystem, the Irish

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society?
I wouldn't like to be you guys

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because you're selecting 5 out
of the 19.

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I, I assume, was a tough, was a
tough ask.

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And I remember the guys of time
when we were outside waiting for

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you guys in the liber
deliberation, we say who's

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taking long and say like guys,
there's a great sign that

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they're having a trouble just
selecting who is going to be the

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top five because they know they
wouldn't have gone out in 10

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minutes it.
Was difficult.

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It was very difficult.
And you know, each one of us had

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our vibe that we debated through
and then it came up with a

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consensus that kind of ticked
all the boxes.

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So, you know, it was great to be
involved with that.

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Where you going to build from
here on top of this momentum

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that you've really achieved over
the last six weeks?

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Yeah, there are a few things.
We have a chance to visit a

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couple of universities during
the launch week, but we need to

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use create a solid or more
robust approach just to tell the

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younger guys, hey, look, this is
Alana, this is the opportunity,

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this is web tree as technology.
You should start looking at it.

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I believe as soon as we go
there, we, we will have bigger

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number of of people from the
solar ecosystem as a land

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resonates pretty well with
younger people.

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They really enjoy they like it.
So that's, that's one of the

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things.
And as I mentioned, like the

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next big initiative we'll have
is start a village.

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Don't start a village, but it's
a little bit more open.

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You need to be building for any
hackathon you can use Come and

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we'll have again some mentors
and polishing people.

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So in that case, they can or
they are going to be ready to

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fundraise.
That's the thing when you go

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into this hackathon, these
competitions, you have an idea,

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you structure it, you have some
take behind and for a fire looks

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good.
However, you need to start

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building the foundation of
pieces.

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So in that case, you can go into
a fundraising exercise.

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That's what we're going to be
doing, right?

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And it will take time.
Yeah, it's only 10 days.

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Fair enough.
But we need to begin somewhere

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and that's that's the place.
And we've got a busy weekend

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coming up.
Right, Busy weekend, busy

453
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:30,880
weekend, busy week in this
doubling tech week.

454
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:34,600
So there's so much happening.
Yeah, there's tons.

455
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:36,040
Yeah.
It is going to be a busy week

456
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:39,560
and kicking off this Friday with
E Dublin and that then going

457
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:43,000
through the weekend and then
we've got Crypto Mondays on

458
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,040
Monday night here in Dublin at
Toners.

459
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:46,520
This will be our third edition
of that.

460
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,360
We're doing this one obviously
with E Dublin, but also Solana

461
00:25:49,360 --> 00:25:53,360
Super team and tech stars and
bringing those communities

462
00:25:53,360 --> 00:25:56,440
together, which is what Crypto
Mondays is all about is that we

463
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,880
don't need the silos between the
different builder communities

464
00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:03,160
and even the different verticals
are horizontals, whatever you

465
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:04,840
want to call it between Web 3
and Web 2.

466
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,800
This is people building
interesting things with

467
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:11,000
technology, people interested in
those from an investment

468
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:14,360
perspective, from an enterprise
perspective, from a partnership

469
00:26:14,360 --> 00:26:17,560
perspective.
So it's all about just, hey,

470
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:19,800
let's have let's have some good
conversations.

471
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,480
Let's have a couple of pints,
perhaps some pizza as well.

472
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,160
And when?
When words collide, Pete.

473
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,200
When words collide.
Exactly.

474
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:28,560
Worlds are colliding, it's a lot
of fun.

475
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,040
And then Dublin Tech Summit, I
think I'm going to go for one of

476
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:35,520
the days, I think next Thursday
at RDSI will be there.

477
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:41,360
And then after that I'm heading
to New York on the 2nd of June

478
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:46,040
for Techstars Web Three Class of
2025 Demo Day.

479
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,840
So this is going to be a
whirlwind over the next couple

480
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,640
of weeks.
I have about 500 invitations

481
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:53,600
waiting for me to send out by
e-mail.

482
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,840
And you know what we do, Jim
Mcgurn and I, we send them one

483
00:26:56,840 --> 00:27:02,240
by one because if you don't and
you use an e-mail distribution

484
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:06,120
tool, it goes to spam.
We've seen way too much of that.

485
00:27:06,120 --> 00:27:11,040
So we're taking one by one and
sending out these emails so that

486
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,440
that's how much it means to me
to get a good crowd there for

487
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,560
the founders.
Is is taking a number of hours

488
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,200
just to go send out all these
emails and that that's waiting

489
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:20,160
from there.
So is a.

490
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:25,280
Culmination out of all the hard
work that you, you and and the

491
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,440
rest of the team and, and the
teams are putting on it right?

492
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:32,520
Like they what you want is these
guys to showcase themselves and,

493
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:38,120
and having the opportunity to be
in front of VCs that will button

494
00:27:38,120 --> 00:27:39,880
up.
That's that's in a way what is

495
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:41,640
about, right?
Absolutely.

496
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,200
And it's the power of the
community in that if you build a

497
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:49,240
community, then it comes back to
you in unexpected ways, shapes

498
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,080
and forms that just bring value
to everybody.

499
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,720
So let's just do it 100.
Percent.

500
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,080
I fully agree.
Look, I think if you don't have

501
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:57,240
a.
Community especially.

502
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,200
With these technologies, it's
irrelevant.

503
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:05,080
You won't be able actually to
use get in front of the back if

504
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,200
you don't have a community.
You need that ecosystem.

505
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:08,800
You need everybody pushing
together.

506
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,840
And I think that's one of the
beautiful components about

507
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,960
Ireland as an ecosystem.
And people are no hold up about

508
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,280
like you're a theorem.
Are you Solana, you Avalanche,

509
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:20,800
are you whatever?
Like people just get together

510
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,600
and want to build, right?
Absolutely.

511
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:25,480
It's a multi chain ecosystem out
there.

512
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,120
So let's just embrace it, you
know?

513
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,800
Yeah.
The is the only way and look, I

514
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:34,040
believe that with everything
that is happening for the last

515
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:38,440
for the last month or so, I feel
that there is a change in the

516
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:44,720
perception of Ireland as a place
to build of Ireland as as a hope

517
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:48,840
for web tree.
And I hope that everybody keeps

518
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:52,440
that momentum going right like
AI say, we, we, we launched

519
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:56,920
super Team Ireland this weekend.
If lowland they're going to be

520
00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,880
big names coming to Ireland.
You have Stanley, you have

521
00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:02,640
Italic.
And I think all this is going to

522
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:06,320
boost the Irish ecosystem
dramatically, right.

523
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:10,680
And I hope that we are seeing
the benefits out of it at the

524
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:15,600
end of 2025 and 2026 these this
quarter if you ask me, when we

525
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:19,600
look back in the future and look
at what happened is it probably

526
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:23,320
is going to be that point in
time when you say, OK, we're

527
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,560
seeing all these because that
happened at that point in time.

528
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,160
Yeah.
It was a turning point.

529
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,200
Quarter to 25.
Yeah.

530
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:32,320
All right.
Well.

531
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,400
Listen, I'm with you on that,
Alejandro.

532
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:38,560
Let's end it there.
And I know that I will see you

533
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,800
this weekend.
I will see you this weekend for

534
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:42,160
sure.
Great.

535
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:43,760
Thank you, Alejandro.
OK.

536
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:44,360
OK.
Thank you.

537
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:50,960
That does it for this week
folks, and you can learn more

538
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,160
about the topics we covered in
the show notes on our website.

539
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,800
Money never sleeps dot IE.
Thanks to Alejandro Gutierrez

540
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:57,880
for the awesome insights he
shared in Co hosting this

541
00:29:57,880 --> 00:29:59,840
episode with me.
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00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:03,040
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544
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:07,920
Thanks to Conan Brophy from
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545
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,480
editing this episode.
Conan is an excellent media man

546
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,200
to get in touch with when you're
thinking about launching your

547
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,400
own podcast.
As for me, I'm an early stage

548
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,800
startup investor in the next
version of the Internet and I

549
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:18,440
lead the Techstars Web 3
accelerator.

550
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:20,600
There are plenty of links in the
show notes on Money Never

551
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,960
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touch, so don't hesitate to

552
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,240
reach out.
Finally, till next time, thanks

553
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:26,440
for listening.
See ya, money.

554
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:36,520
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